Interview begins: 8:46 Debrief begins: 44:36 This week we're speaking with Jason Illian, Managing Director of Koch Disruptive Technologies. Jason was the founder and CEO of BookShout, the world's leading B2B e-book company. He has presented at the Goldman Sachs Technology & Internet Conference, the Credit Suisse Global Media and Communications Convergence Conference, and hundreds of other organizations. He has been featured on ABC, in The New York Times, and numerous radio interviews. As the mid-to-late stage venture arm of Koch Industries, KDT invests in technology companies that disrupt and transform Koch’s core businesses and expand into new platforms and capabilities. Segments being explored include artificial intelligence, blockchain and crypto, bio IT and genomics, and industrial robotics. Key Points: - Commerce and Technology (8:56) - Koch: what and who is it for? (10:49) - In measuring progress (16:43) - Frontlines (28:02) - KDT's reputation in the marketplace (31:19) - The Inspiration (39:11) - Fundamental Shift (41:53) Learn more about Koch Disruptive Technologies: https://www.kochind.com/companies/koch-disruptive-technologies Follow upside on Twitter: https://twitter.com/upsidefm Connect with Jason: https://twitter.com/jasonillian?lang=en – This episode is sponsored by Integrity Power Search, the #1 full stack high growth startup recruiting firm between the coasts. They partner with venture capitalists, private equity groups and CEOs to build amazing teams for the world’s most disrupting companies. Learn more about or get in touch with Integrity Power Search: https://upside.fm/integrity – This episode is also sponsored by RIMS. RIMS is a global organization dedicated to the profession of risk management. For nearly 60 years, RIMS has delivered the latest strategies and resources that allow risk professionals to grow, innovate, and succeed—in any business. RIMS works with industry leaders to produce content and online training that business professionals turn to. Topics include business continuity, cyber risk, risk management techniques, the fundamentals of insurance and more. There is also a private, members-only site where people can discuss sensitive issues and get honest answers. Members have been leaning on each other as we all navigate the global pandemic. If you're concerned about the safety of your employees and the sustainability of your organization, you need the resources and connections RIMS provides. Learn more at https://go.rims.org/upside. You can save 25% off a year-long membership.